ROGER MANDEVILLE built fresh 20B







Offered as a complete running unit. (will consider selling Motec and sensors separate)







Mandeville Auto Tech 20B

MOTEC engine management w/ wide band lambda and full data logging

Custom wire harness and new sensors

Full TIG welded, and A/N hoses

Custom fuel rails w/ -8 lines

Modified intake

coil packs and 11mm wires



Custom cooling system w/ remote 55 gal Meziere pump

custom mounts for second gen car

twin turbos set up to run parallel



ACT clutch and 9lb. flywheel

Greddy Pro-fec B boost control

HKS sequential bolw off valve

Package was built to fit under stock turbo hood

Fresh 5- speed Turbo 2 trans







If you are considering a 20b project here’s your opportunity to acquire a turnkey frontline-built package. I am willing to make an attractive deal to someone wanting the entire package or most of it. Currently the engine is still in the car, but not for long. I would like to see it go to a good home. $11,000 ish



Pic should be attached. I repeat, SHOULD BE.

What model Motec are/were you using? Did Mandeville modify the fuel rails and intake for you? I'd love to see pictures if you have them. CCarlisi@aol.com

Carlisi...I might be interested in the motor and trans if you want the rest of the stuff...

What model motec? You said it had the wide band option?? Is that just the trial 9 or whatever hours you get when you buy it or is the option unlocked for permanent use? Spendy option.



-Destin

[quote name='sillbeer' date='Jul 8 2005, 06:42 PM']What model motec? You said it had the wide band option?? Is that just the trial 9 or whatever hours you get when you buy it or is the option unlocked for permanent use? Spendy option.



-Destin


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$910 to 'unlock' the wideband function? -Motec must be Australian for 'Extortion.'

Its a Motec M48, with wide band enabled all the time. I believe it was a $1200 option at the time. The fuel rails were modified here, in house, along with most everything else. Roger built the long block, modified the turbos, and deleted the oil metering system and related plumbing.

BTW, I seem to not understand how to upload pictures on this site. I followed the directions several times, but it always comes back blank. I will e-mail pics. upon request, and if someone has better luck, feel free to post them here.

The craftmanship of this set up is second to none, and as much as everyone seems to covet this combo, I really hope someone will take advantage of this opportunity. I have been told that my asking price is very fair, and well worth it. But as the saying goes, "its only worth what someone else will pay for it." I hope to find it a new home before it gets pulled out.

email pics to Silver3rdgen@hotmail.com ... I am VERY interested. Thank you.

If you email me the pictures I will try to upload them for you.



CCarlisi@aol.com

Very nice. I think you were having trouble uploading because the pictures were so large.

I have the option unlocked on my m8. It's nice to have. No extra electronics to mess around with. Car looks great.



-Destin

What kind of radiator do you have for it? And how much for the pump, lines, and radiator?



-Destin

Ron Davis made the radiator to my specs, but its not for sale. Sorry.

How much for the whole car?

What all is included in the cooling system and how much? You can email me if you want to destinhinton@hotmail.com. Thanks.



-Destin

-Everything can be for sale. PM me an offer on the whole car.





-If the "whole car" is not sold, the cooling system is not available. However, I could duplicate the cooling system for about $3,000.

$350 for a meizer pump

$500 for a custom radiator

$300 for lines

Water reservoir $xx



I'm not even remotly seeing $3g's. Can you give a list of parts?



-Destin

That's o.k. , I get that alot. Very few "crafters" have actually experienced the cost in building full race cars. Its the details that run up the cost well beyond the typical mods. that are adequate for street. Ron Davis does very few things for $500, but Fluidyne, or BeCool does. Making dash (-20) fittings and lines is the business to be in, ($140+ for just the top elbo), and custom fabricated and milled engine plate, and mounting brackets cost more than the price of the aluminum plate stock. I actually had two guys (while standing next to the car) think long and hard ( about 20min.) if they should go halves ($6,000 each) on buying what they thought was the entire car! Why would anyone spend $28,000 on a new RX-8 when they could buy a new Chevy Cobalt for $17,000. They both are new cars.

bump for a really good deal on as good a 20b as you will find anywhere...



i bought Roger Mandeville's IMSA RS RX3sp in 82 after looking at Jim Downing and Joe Varde's 3s. after converting it to GT3 SCCA spec i campaigned it in the very competitive CENDIV and won 27 Nats including the June Sprints and placed 2nd, 2 thirds and 2 4ths at the Runoffs. Roger continued to build my motors.



during 1984 i sat on the pole in 9 of 12 National races. at the 1984 Runoffs after 2 days of practice and 2 days of qualifying ( 3rd on the grid) i asked Roger if we should throw the other fresh motor in the car for the race... the motor in the car had run the whole season, he said not unless we just wanted something to do. after the entire season it ran second. the only car to beat me was David Vegher in a Lotus Elan as high as your knees. the following year SCCA bumped him to GT2 and added weight to his car. we held lap records at Road America, Mid Ohio, IRP, Brainerd and Blackhawk Farms.



Roger Mandeville won the 1979 and 1981 IMSA RS Series titles amongst 50 car fields and placed second to Jim Downing in 1980. Roger is also responsible for the majority of Mazda's over 100 wins against Porsche in the IMSA GTU and GTO class.



Roger and his wife Nancy are as classy as any people i have had the pleasure of meeting during my life. you can take anything Roger or Nancy say to the bank.



someone is going to wake up and realize what an extraordinary deal this is on an extraordinary piece of iron.



howard coleman

I also think this is a good deal. The cost of my Mandeville short block alone was a couple grand shy of the package above.