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fi addict 12-13-2004 09:05 AM

Ok everyone who has their car up running or in the works....

I am posting this due to the loss of posts i found out about from the email sent to me from the admin.



This will help many of of w/ tuning maps and just tips on how to trouble shoot. If you dont have a project in the works or up and running PM the person you have a question for please. This post will be a great reference i think in everyones future.



gt42 53 trim turbo

720cc and 1600 cc injectors

stock port 20B

microtech ltx12s

bosch coils

project in the works 60% complete approx

Rub20B 12-13-2004 12:36 PM

pictures



This is the current status, Its a slow process...



As you can see I'm building a 20B, will be streetported...



Now I'll be going for a single...



The question is, wich one? The car is for street usage, better to have 500hp from 4000 rpm than 650 from 7000rpm..., I was thinking about a HKS T04Z with the 1.0 A/R exaust.. will this baby be to small or not? I'm shooting around 500-600hp, driveability comes before peak hp...



Sorry for my bad english https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png



Greetz

Jeff20B 12-13-2004 02:28 PM

Nice series of pictures. What type of puller did you use to seperate your E shaft?

Rub20B 12-13-2004 05:07 PM

Hehe thank you,



Something homemade, made it in 5 mins from a old VW tool wich was lying aroud.. just made to hole slightly bigger and welded a rong on it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png



I just took some pictures!



I also have a question about the 2 rear side housings, as you can see, they had water, now at the very bottom the chrome look is away, do I need to let replolish them or would fine sandpaper clear the job?



Another solution is that I maybe can buy a FD engine for almost noting and use those side housings..?



Btw, can you reopen the tread about your Whipple 20B, looked very nice!



Greetz



edit: forgot to say I uploaded the pictures https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

Jeff20B 12-14-2004 12:37 AM

Thanks for uploading some pictures of your puller.



Use a razor blade. Scrape through the rust und see if the nitrided surface has been damaged/softened. I've seen some waterdamaged plates that were so soft I could scrape the metal away with a fingernail. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png

rotary4life 12-14-2004 11:59 AM

Here are some pictures and details of my project. (view signature)

The car is running but I still need to do some tunning.

fi addict 12-14-2004 03:27 PM

thanks for posting everyone thus far.

the point of this was to get everyone EMS (microtech,haltech,tec3,motec....ect.) , injector size, and turbo size so we can all help each other in the future w/ settings ,maps and tuning.



rotary4life...perfect. thanks!!!!!

Rub20B 12-14-2004 04:07 PM

Yep, as I already asked: a T04Z= to small or not?

RETed 12-15-2004 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Rub20B' date='Dec 14 2004, 02:06 PM
Yep, as I already asked: a T04Z= to small or not?


For a 20B?

You'll maybe make 500...maybe 600 if you turn the boost up high enough.







-Ted

Rub20B 12-16-2004 12:26 AM

Hmmz,



I'm searching for the ideal turbo, low rpm torque and top en hp...



I only scared that the T04Z will choke the engine above 7000 rpm.. anyone tried this combo before?

Rub20B 12-17-2004 09:42 AM

Because I was boring...



If someone wants the .asz file, pm me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

sillbeer 12-19-2004 10:25 AM

I bought my car pretty much full tuned. I plan changing a few things when I get back to the states though. Here's a list of what it has and the future changes.



20b FC

13b exhaust housings, stock ported motor

custom engine brackets

eurethane engine and tranny mounts

T88-34D

Amemeya exhaust manifold

Sard 60mm type J wastegate

3" DP to dual 3" exhaust

stock primary injectors and 1000cc secondarys

Sard FPR

Amemeya collector tank

fuel cell

3x bosch 044 fuel pumps

moroso fuel cool box

Motec m8

Trust 4 core fmic

100mm cold pipe and 70mm hot pipe

q45 90mm TB

Bride Brix seats

stock transmission

OS giken triple plate

Cusco 7pt roll cage

Mazdaspeed rear tower bar

Amemeya rear camber links

Mazdaspeed 1.5 LSD

Endless brake stop

Hurst roll controll

R-Magaic front bumper with headlight conversion

Amemeya vented hood

Amemeya mirrors





The car ran good and I didn't have any real big issues with it. It was originally tuned for 1.4bar of boost but only hit that once on the dyno. It netted 587.4rwhp @ 1.25bar. Things that i'm going to change when I get back to the states. I currently have 3x 1600cc injectors and custom fuel rail. I sold the OS triple plate clutch and bought an ATS carbon triple. I also bought a Stillway zero yon shifter in hopes I can destroy my stock transmission. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif I also have a full set of defi bf's which i'm contemplating getting rid of in favor of a stack unit. I also will be doing away with the twin exhaust and installing my new Border exhaust. I'm currently working on cutting out the inside of the 20b UIM and will have it extrude honed later in the future. I may try to sale the T88 and pick up a dual bb T72. I will also be looking into a fix for the front sway bar. I have the cosmo 20b sway bar. Maybe I can make something out of that for the fc and if not i'll be getting ahold of Ted. As of about 4 months ago the shell was crushed into a small cube and the rest of the car is in my garage all boxed up.



-Destin

sillbeer 12-19-2004 10:33 AM

I also have an HPI ignition box. Not sure if I need it or not but i'm sure it can't hurt anything. How good is the stock ignition system anyways?



-Destin

Rub20B 12-26-2004 11:39 AM

Who's using 3mm's in his 20B?



I'm planning around 550-600 rwhp, would this be necessairy?



I don't think so but everywhere I read that when you go to more then 200hp/rotor you should go for 3mm's..?

Rub20B 12-26-2004 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by sillbeer' date='Dec 19 2004, 06:24 PM
I bought my car pretty much full tuned. I plan changing a few things when I get back to the states though. Here's a list of what it has and the future changes.



20b FC

13b exhaust housings, stock ported motor

custom engine brackets

eurethane engine and tranny mounts

T88-34D

Amemeya exhaust manifold

Sard 60mm type J wastegate

3" DP to dual 3" exhaust

stock primary injectors and 1000cc secondarys

Sard FPR

Amemeya collector tank

fuel cell

3x bosch 044 fuel pumps

moroso fuel cool box

Motec m8

Trust 4 core fmic

100mm cold pipe and 70mm hot pipe

q45 90mm TB

Bride Brix seats

stock transmission

OS giken triple plate

Cusco 7pt roll cage

Mazdaspeed rear tower bar

Amemeya rear camber links

Mazdaspeed 1.5 LSD

Endless brake stop

Hurst roll controll

R-Magaic front bumper with headlight conversion

Amemeya vented hood

Amemeya mirrors

The car ran good and I didn't have any real big issues with it. It was originally tuned for 1.4bar of boost but only hit that once on the dyno. It netted 587.4rwhp @ 1.25bar. Things that i'm going to change when I get back to the states. I currently have 3x 1600cc injectors and custom fuel rail. I sold the OS triple plate clutch and bought an ATS carbon triple. I also bought a Stillway zero yon shifter in hopes I can destroy my stock transmission. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif I also have a full set of defi bf's which i'm contemplating getting rid of in favor of a stack unit. I also will be doing away with the twin exhaust and installing my new Border exhaust. I'm currently working on cutting out the inside of the 20b UIM and will have it extrude honed later in the future. I may try to sale the T88 and pick up a dual bb T72. I will also be looking into a fix for the front sway bar. I have the cosmo 20b sway bar. Maybe I can make something out of that for the fc and if not i'll be getting ahold of Ted. As of about 4 months ago the shell was crushed into a small cube and the rest of the car is in my garage all boxed up.



-Destin






What do you mean by: 13B exhaust housings?



Only the inserts or complete rotor housings? So you must have drilled out the 2 holes where the thicker bolts are?



Greetz

Jeff20B 12-26-2004 02:56 PM

Sleeve swap. As for your 2mm vs 3mm question, I couldn't tell you. It's been debated a lot and I don't know the answer anymore.


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