Hello Gent's & a few Fem's.

Well it's now been 5 weeks since I sent back my Holley to Racing Beat, 7 calls later they promised to have it on my doorstep by Friday???

They sure like to talk about what they did wrong, but lack in fixing it and sending the Carb back to you.

I called them yesterday and talked to Jim Tanner i.e. Manager (nice guy) and he is going to throw in a Pulley & Dual Alternator System. OK I guess it was worth the wait considering I was planning on ordering them anyway.

Free is Good!!!



Now for the fun part.

How to keep the Key in place while removing the Main Pulley And what position should it be facing since it can be put on 4 different ways.

I don't believe it was installed correctly to begin with???



Any Great Suggestions would be helpful.

I've read alot of threads on this project threw this site and the other one and there seems to be quit a few differences. i.e Keyway facing 9:00-another one keep it pointing downward so the bearing does not fall.

Lost+Lost.

Someone in this wonderful rotor world has to have the altimate answer. Please Please.

steve

sgieldon

P.S. Hey Mike thanks for the response. Maybe Luis has tried this one out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/violin.gif

well the key way is opposite of tdc, tdc is when the rotor face is up against the spark plugs.



mike

But you didn't tell him they sold his carb tho... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

actually that was cool of them to help you out like that. i guess thats why they've been around so long https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



mike

The position of the motor does not matter when installing RB pully. The timing marks on the pulley are iscribed, and the key way is machined, hence the relation between the key way location and the timing mark location CAN NOT change. (the pulley is also one peice)



The easiest way I have found is to locate the key way in the 12 o'clock postion, remove the eccentric bolt (very tight, very tough to remove). After the bolt is loose, have a partner press down AND HOLD the clutch pedal until the eccentric bolt is reinstalled. Now remove the eccentric bolt, at the same time using a small screw driver or leather puch to firmly press the key in the key-way towards the motor. Don't worry it can't fly out. Remove the stock pully. Install the RB pully being VERY careful not to allow the key to move. Make sure teh key has not movedmake sure the pully is fully seated and reinstall the eccentric bolt, Tourqe to 90 lbs-ft and tell you friend to relax.



Good Luck

Ryan

i did the same thing but since i have no friends i used a piece of wood wedged between the pedal and drivers seat.

Thanks Ryan & Mike for the info.

My RB Carb was on my doorstep Friday to include the FREE Dual Alternater & Main Pulleys :)Ya:Hoo. Free is Good!

I bought an air compressure i.e 175 pounder with all the other **** you need to use one of these things. I can't believe that all these yesrs of working on Jeeps, Durangos and 6 RX-7s I survived with out one.



Anyhow; Gonna do the Pulley's change over today. Have a friend to help with the Clutch issue called 2x4, but a little confused in the proper Keyway position. Been told by a couple of RotorHeads it's supposed to be at the 9:00 and now I read from Ryan to line it up at 12:00???

Since I did the rebuild I know for a fact I installed incorrectly and do not want to make the same mistake again.

OK: 12:00 or 9:00 Help.

Mike just so you know I did do the Rotor thing and it still can be off as much as 2 gears on the Disti or maybe I'm just to stupid to figure it out. Just a Laugh.

Thanks Guys for the input as usual.

steve

sgieldon

P.S. Where's Raul???

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

its gotta either be 9 o clock or 6 o clock. hmm i may take some pics later



mike

here's tdc

https://www.nopistons.com/~j9fd3s/al...9bf04e4478.jpg



heres the e shaft @ tdc



https://www.nopistons.com/~j9fd3s/al...487241a280.jpg



and here's a close up



https://www.nopistons.com/~j9fd3s/al...44fd2625a0.jpg



mike

Thankyou all for the help!

Mr. Mike your Pic's explained what I needed know. Yes the (Keyway is in the 9:00 as I expected it should be to be at TDC). I tried looking into the Lead Spark Hole but got lost considering ya's gots 3 surfaces to confuse me. I must be dumb or something????

Anyhew: Gonna do the 9:00 key thingie and install the Holley today.

Got stuck working on the Durango yesterday. Don't ever try to change the Spark Plugs in one of these stupid boinger pieces of ****. Took me 4 hrs to do it. You have to remove the fuel injection and everything else attached to the top of the motor just to get to them.

I'll never curse at my RX again. 5 mins Plugs are out.

Thanks again

steve

sgieldon https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

yeah, thats one reason i'm still driving an old rx https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



mike

Mike, what kind of cars do ya got? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif

Hey steve, you got that carb sorted yet?

Nope not yet;

I had to work on my other RX i.e. 80 over the weekend so it could be outa here for $100us.

Finaly I have the hole garage the 84GSL and don't have to swear at the 80 for always being in the way. It would have cost me about $5,000 to restore it and I would rather use the money for my other toy.

But the good news is that the intake,carb,New Pulleys will installed this weekend.



Hey Drifter and the rest of you Australians, are you ready for winter?

Here in Oregon its still raining alot as usual and are ready for the Sun to come out!!!!!

See Ya's

steve

sgieldon https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

Free parts is always a bonus.I hope yours is running soon.

Yeah, I hope you get her fixed and running soon.



The shitty weather is starting to come in now, its a damn shame I've had to move my cars out of the garage. The only thing now between them and the elements are a tarp. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

Hey Everybody;

Well the 84 and I had a 12 hr date Sat and I think she came at least 6 times. WaHoo!!!

I tried using a 265 rated Impact Wrench on her and could not remove the Pulley. Gave up on that one and went for the 4ft breaker bar and a Beer. Worked great.

You differently have to use a very small screwdriver or scriber to keep the Keyway in place before you remove the old pulley. Now I see way there is so much info on this project.



Just for the hell of it I tried it first on a blown engine that I gots sittin around and sure enough when I pulled the pulley off, the key came out with it. Sooo reading a little sure pays off.



I installed the Racing Beat Double Sleave Pulley on her at 90lbs torque, checked the clearence and all is well within Spec's.

Had to get a smaller belts though???

Decided to drain the antifreeze and flush the system. Damn only 500 miles on the stuff, so that I could change the RB Intake system. Figured may as well start from scratch again!!!

Everthing is ready to go today when it takes me about 15 mins to put the Carbie back on.

Fingers crossed i.e fires right up and goes for a 140mph test run. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif



Ok: Rotor Heads; Gots one ? for ya's. First of all, anyone have any experience with the RB Main Drive Pulley Set-UP?

Looking at the front of the engine the Pulley has 4 marks on it.

Starting from Left to Right.



1st Mark= 10%ATDC

2nd Mark= 0%

3rd Mark= 10%BTC

4th Mark= 20%BTC



Sooo what mark am I supposed to be at before I align the Talley & Dimple on the Disti before I drop it in. The typical lack of info that came with the pulley gives no reference to this one at all.

Sorry to be so winnded but had nothing better to do until first light.

Thanks all & Happy Easter

steve

sgieldon

align the dizzy @ tdc, or zero



mike

Yeah,what mike said. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Thanks Mike:

steve

Hello Mike,Luis,Raul, & everbody else that helped with this project.

The Babe is DONE & and she Smells and Runs like a new born Virgin https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png

All that's left is to tweak the Timing a bit to get her at the best.



**** now I'm going to have to find something else to do to the RX so I don't get lazy with her!!!

Like maybe Side Skirts and a Wing. Any Suggestions???

Thanks again EveryBody.

steve

sgieldon

Glad to be of help.



Raul

cool, its finally running right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



mike

Glad to hear its running right now.



Luis

Hey Guru's

Well I still have this ******* little miss and I'm not gonna take it anymore!!!!!

Here I go agian. Things working perfectly and I have to srcrew around with Paul Yaws

timing thingie.

Now I've Mucked it all up again.



Started all over from scratch i.e. checked the Keyway @9:00 with RB Pulley TDC.

Pulled the Disti and now the Dimple and Shaft is lined up in the opposite direction.

I'm gettin to old for this ****....

Turned the pulley on my old blown motor and sure enough everytime you turn it one revolution, keyway at 9:00 the Disti Shaft can be at either position.

Am I just stupid or lost.

Maybe some of ya's can tell me the correct position of the disti rotor i.e. arrow on it should be pointing for the right 9:00 DooWaDidDee.

Damn https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png Why do we RotorHeads have to Screw Up A Good Thing.



HAVE A gREAT wEEKEND

Steve