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Racer X 03-21-2004 05:42 PM

When I did my SE swap back a few years ago I ran a SE starter seeing as the 12a one was shot anyways last year I thought it died because all it would do is click and not turn the motor over so I bought a new one.Now its doing the same stupid clicking noise.I change the 2 power wires and it did squat so I think my problem is the stock ground wire(same thing happened to my friends 2001 ram diesel).Where should I run the ground from?The chassis or the battery?I plan on running some 1 or 2 guage wire for it in the morning.



Thanks

drifter 03-21-2004 07:09 PM

From memory, stock ground is to the battery.



Though I have heard (from the car stereo game), that grounds should always go the car body and never to the battery. Just make sure you have a nice fat wire coming from the neg terminal to the car body.



Ahh, too much conflicting information in my head!

Alak 03-21-2004 08:16 PM

Ground it to the chassis, I had the same problem. I put in a brand new starter and it did that when I first hooked it up. I bought brand new battery cables and still nothing, but when I grounded it to the chassis, it worked like a charm.

RotaryXSevn 03-21-2004 09:46 PM

MAN I'M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM! erright....so i just ground the negitive cable from the battery to the chassis?

Racer X 03-21-2004 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryXSevn' date='Mar 21 2004, 07:46 PM
MAN I'M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM! erright....so i just ground the negitive cable from the battery to the chassis?

You can.I plan on 3 grounds tommorow tho.1 to the chassis another to the motor and tranny then the last one is going to be from the starter to the chassis.Lets hope this solves my new problem.Then I need to tune it and start drifting again. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif Thanks everyone

ioTus 03-23-2004 05:56 PM

This is odd. I have my starter hooked up to the stock ground, however, i have relocated the battery and it has its own ground. And it still starts JUST fine every time.....

Red12aRx7 03-23-2004 07:42 PM

If that doesn't work you can fix your starter. All you have to do is take it apart and clean the brushes. I have done this to mine once, works like a charm and starts just like new.

Racer X 03-24-2004 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Red12aRx7' date='Mar 23 2004, 05:42 PM
If that doesn't work you can fix your starter. All you have to do is take it apart and clean the brushes. I have done this to mine once, works like a charm and starts just like new.

Starter is new tho.Has about a month of use on it.

drifter 03-25-2004 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Red12aRx7' date='Mar 24 2004, 09:42 AM
If that doesn't work you can fix your starter. All you have to do is take it apart and clean the brushes. I have done this to mine once, works like a charm and starts just like new.

That only works for so long.

Once the internals wear down, its better to just replace than keep trying to drag more life with cleaning.

Red12aRx7 03-26-2004 11:08 PM

Yea, I was just too cheap to get one at the time.. I was playing high school basketball and didn't work.. But cleaning it has lasted for over a year.. so it worked just fine for me. But I do need a new one.

Racer X 03-27-2004 02:42 PM

OK after the 2 day thundershower delay I laid out a whole new ground system($40Later) and still nothing except the clicking off my new starter.I highly doubt that starter is shot after 4000 kms tho.Going back under the car now. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif Be alot easier to smash the car into a paper wieght right now tho.

commanda 03-28-2004 01:48 PM

Common problem with RX7's. The ignition switch gets crappy and you don't get enough power to the starter. I had my mechanic put in a relay to switch +12 directly from the battery.



Amanda

falcoln0014 03-28-2004 02:26 PM

I've gone thru 4 starters on mine...and the one I have now isn't working too well either...i'm not sure if its the car...or if stuff is just really cheap now days



had one that wouldn't disenguage when it started...

one that did nothing...

another that grinds...or would do nothing



and the one I have now has a tendancy to grind like a mofo when i start her cold...pumping the gas 3 or 4 times with the choke out seems to help...but sometimes it still does it...things on there tight...and I replaced the battery cables not too long ago...so it shouldn't be wiring related



first 3 came from o-reilys...the one i've got now came from autozone



they're all just junk i tell ya...puuuuuuuure junk https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png



and I don't think its my ignition switch...cuz when i origionally had problems with my starter doing...nothing...I replaced it...wasn't cheap either...made no difference in my opinion...but I guess it would depend on what problems your having exactly



If all else fails...get the choke out and everything...put her into first...and let out the clutch while its rolling...got me home quite a few times https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Racer X 03-29-2004 02:57 AM

Tested it yesterday and my starter is shot.Thanks god its on warranty.

falcoln0014 03-29-2004 12:42 PM

I had a lifetime on mine...but after getting 3 they wouldn't let me have anymore...the final one was shot inside...but they said since it spun up on the tester they couldn't give me another...really...pissed me off



If they give you any crap tell em you'll shove that starter where the sun don't shine https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png

Racer X 04-01-2004 10:02 PM

OK,UPdate time.Starter is on and the stupid thing still just clicks.Just tested the power wires and theres no 12V at it with the key in the "ON" position.This leads me to believe that the hot wire is at fault because I already multimetered the ground and its awesome shape.Can I run a hot off the battery directly to the starter or does it come off the ignition as well?



Thanks

DJ Rotor 04-02-2004 10:03 AM

I'd look into doing the relay thing like Amanda suggested . . .



Good luck



J

Racer X 04-03-2004 03:33 PM

Found my problem.regrounded the car and then tested the ignition wire with the clip on it and I got 12.22VDC so then I tested the Positive wire and got 0VDC.Ran a wire directly off the battery and it cranks right away without the ignition on.Is there a way to wire it so I can run my 4 guage I have on the positive now off my ignition?Hey J9FD3S I could use some help here. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif I am headed downtown to get some contact cleaner and see if I can't get the stock Green/Yellow stripe wire to work right.I am thinking its a bad connection at the main harness.Any help is still appreciated tho.I want to make this reliable so I can sell my work car to put a downpayment on a house I went and looked at last week.MIKE WHERE ARE YOU???

Racer X 04-03-2004 05:45 PM

Well my green/yellow wire turns to a blue/white wire at the main harness junction.But I can't find it in the cabin.Any ideas where to find this so I can figure out why this wire is dead all of a sudden?



thanks

drifter 04-04-2004 09:46 PM

All your fuses and fusible links are in check right?

Racer X 04-05-2004 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by drifter' date='Apr 4 2004, 06:46 PM
All your fuses and fusible links are in check right?

Yup.I checked the fusible links block and they seem fine there after a multimeter test and then I went thru the fuse block and they're all good as well.Its that Blue/White striped wire thats dead now causing me this headache.


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