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defprun 10-30-2003 03:57 PM

Anyone (or anyone know anyone that) ever swapped an SHO motor in a First gen? If so...why?

diabolical1 10-30-2003 06:05 PM

can't say that i know of anyone doing a SHO swap in a Gen I, nor can i say that i'm sorry for not knowing anyone either.



the weirdest swap i ever encountered was someone that decided to put the motor from the old Merkur XR4Ti's (i think it was the Ford Sierra everywhere else) in a Gen I ... a 2.3L Turbo 4 if i'm not mistaken.



to each, his own ... i guess

defprun 10-30-2003 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by diabolical1' date='Oct 30 2003, 04:05 PM
can't say that i know of anyone doing a SHO swap in a Gen I, nor can i say that i'm sorry for not knowing anyone either.



the weirdest swap i ever encountered was someone that decided to put the motor from the old Merkur XR4Ti's (i think it was the Ford Sierra everywhere else) in a Gen I ... a 2.3L Turbo 4 if i'm not mistaken.



to each, his own ... i guess

Yeah I saw pics of that...i like the ford 2.3's but if the car isnt balanced for the engine its just this huge cast iron weight crushing the front tires...

Racer X 10-30-2003 08:52 PM

You mean the SVO mustang motor.The SHO motor is a 3.2 V6 FWD motor found in the ford taurus.230hp stock.Nice motors for a FWD swap.

defprun 10-30-2003 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Oct 30 2003, 06:52 PM
You mean the SVO mustang motor.The SHO motor is a 3.2 V6 FWD motor found in the ford taurus.230hp stock.Nice motors for a FWD swap.

Oh I know, i was kindof making fun of the Sho motor cause this guy i know wants to put one in everything...it makes...uhhh, 200hp stock! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png LOL!!!



Merkur XR4ti Thunderbird Turbocoupe and Mustang SVO all have the same engine in different tuning levels. The Xr4's is pushing about 175 at 15psi, while the others are more in the 230 levels with a different VAM, chip and a top mounted intercooler.

jerseybrandon 10-31-2003 07:40 AM

Shoe horning that yama-ford V6 into an RX-7 wouldn't be worth the trouble, not to mention the outrageous expense. And for the record those 2.3 turbo ford engines are nothing but trouble.

defprun 10-31-2003 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by jerseybrandon' date='Oct 31 2003, 05:40 AM
Shoe horning that yama-ford V6 into an RX-7 wouldn't be worth the trouble, not to mention the outrageous expense. And for the record those 2.3 turbo ford engines are nothing but trouble.

Oh god, if the 2.3 is not the most unreliable goddamn engine in the world!!! It will last forever, but downtime from just stupid **** happening all the time drove me up the ******* wall.



And I heard the Yamaha engine is actually a marine engineered engine? Sounds like it with exhaust. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/dry.png It also makes the funniest noise when it bounces off the rev limiter https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

jerseybrandon 11-03-2003 10:50 AM

You're right, they dont seem to ever fully "let go" but they have their fair share of issues. Good buddy of mine had 2 of them, between the 2 cars we replaced 2 headgaskets, 1 turbo, 1 exhaust manifold, 3 water pumps, 4 injectors and about 3 catalytic converters. None of the jobs were all that difficult, just makes a pile of parts and the car is off the road for days or possibly weeks at a time.

defprun 11-03-2003 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by jerseybrandon' date='Nov 3 2003, 08:50 AM
You're right, they dont seem to ever fully "let go" but they have their fair share of issues. Good buddy of mine had 2 of them, between the 2 cars we replaced 2 headgaskets, 1 turbo, 1 exhaust manifold, 3 water pumps, 4 injectors and about 3 catalytic converters. None of the jobs were all that difficult, just makes a pile of parts and the car is off the road for days or possibly weeks at a time.

Mine actually did let go, i was going up a hill on the QEW and as I was coming up over the hill i heard a slight rattling noise...once I got to the bottom, and touched the accelerator...no boost, 5psi, and almost no power. Pulled off to the side of the road, the exhaust manifold was beet red...and than a rad hose or something exploded in a huge white cloud. Towed to a shop. A month or two later I got in it, tried to start it...wouldnt start, replaced the battery...started right up. Spent about a half hour rolling it back and forth trying to get it out of the dried up mud its been sitting in...



At 5000rpm running 5psi boost running on 3 cylinders and no engine coolant for a half hour the thing never completely died!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png

CrashFactory 11-04-2003 05:17 PM

Hey ppl, not to burst yer bubble...the SHO has a YamahaV-8 , not 6 :P

pengaru 11-04-2003 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by CrashFactory' date='Nov 4 2003, 11:17 PM
Hey ppl, not to burst yer bubble...the SHO has a YamahaV-8 , not 6 :P

there are 3 sho engines, 2 are v6's one is a v8.

UniqueTII 11-04-2003 07:25 PM

And the V8 is a Ford engine, right? The 6'es are the Yamahas, aren't they?

defprun 11-05-2003 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by UniqueTII' date='Nov 4 2003, 05:25 PM
And the V8 is a Ford engine, right? The 6'es are the Yamahas, aren't they?

Yep. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



You can tell, the 6 does not sound like a ford product. And the owner of the car, a frequenter of SHOtimes.com I believe told me everything about it without exaggerating too much... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

Racer X 11-05-2003 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by CrashFactory' date='Nov 4 2003, 03:17 PM
Hey ppl, not to burst yer bubble...the SHO has a YamahaV-8 , not 6 :P

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif I've studied all sorts of cars before rotaries.I think I should know a thing or two about them.I've rebuilt alot of motors. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

ZenRXSeven 11-06-2003 12:05 PM

I'm putting a SHO in my Probe, lol. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/mellow.png

defprun 11-07-2003 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by ZenRXSeven' date='Nov 6 2003, 10:05 AM
I'm putting a SHO in my Probe, lol. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/mellow.png

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png OMG that's M4|) s1(K! y0!!!1111

ZenRXSeven 11-07-2003 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by defprun' date='Nov 7 2003, 07:01 AM
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR OMG that's M4|) s1(K! y0!!!1111

Ain't it, though? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR

defprun 11-07-2003 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRXSeven' date='Nov 7 2003, 09:47 AM

It's like swapping in a H22 motor...but twice the weight.

Racer X 11-07-2003 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRXSeven' date='Nov 6 2003, 10:05 AM
I'm putting a SHO in my Probe, lol. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/mellow.png

This will help you then...

http://www.harborside.com/%7Elhumbert/probepg.html

ZenRXSeven 11-07-2003 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Nov 7 2003, 04:18 PM

Yeah, I've seen that site. It's the only decent site I've found about it.



And defprun, I decided to do this swap for several reasons, and performance being last on the list. First of all, I wanted a somewhat challenging project. Secondly, my Probe makes a very good candidate for a swap. The chassis and body are in very good shape, and the stock 2.2L that's in there now has been on a slow but steady rate of decay for the past few years. That motor needs to be ripped apart and the parts used to decorate my room. I've always liked the Yamaha SHO motor, and I think it suits the Probe nicely. They're also relatively easy to get ahold of (the other viable swap option for 1st gen Probes, which is not only a much easier swap to do, but also has higher performance gains, is the FE3: a 2.0L turbo 4-cyl found in various members of the 323 family and its Australian Ford counterparts. It was never offered in any car sold in North America and is thus expensive, and difficult to get ahold of). Thirdly, I'm building this car for my dad as a fun daily driver/to-and-from-work car, so the entire project is tailored to his tastes. And fourth, performance. This car has been a faithful servant to my family for 14 years now, and while not being much more than a mediocre car at best, it does have some sentimental value. I believe it deserves to have a little grunt for being a dependable car for almost a decade and a half. Oh yeah, and my dad's gonna be eating some of the cost of the project too, lol.



Heh, I kinda went into more detail than I thought I would.

defprun 11-08-2003 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRXSeven' date='Nov 7 2003, 07:43 PM
[quote name='Racer X' date='Nov 7 2003, 04:18 PM'] This will help you then...

http://www.harborside.com/%7Elhumbert/probepg.html

Yeah, I've seen that site. It's the only decent site I've found about it.



And defprun, I decided to do this swap for several reasons, and performance being last on the list. First of all, I wanted a somewhat challenging project. Secondly, my Probe makes a very good candidate for a swap. The chassis and body are in very good shape, and the stock 2.2L that's in there now has been on a slow but steady rate of decay for the past few years. That motor needs to be ripped apart and the parts used to decorate my room. I've always liked the Yamaha SHO motor, and I think it suits the Probe nicely. They're also relatively easy to get ahold of (the other viable swap option for 1st gen Probes, which is not only a much easier swap to do, but also has higher performance gains, is the FE3: a 2.0L turbo 4-cyl found in various members of the 323 family and its Australian Ford counterparts. It was never offered in any car sold in North America and is thus expensive, and difficult to get ahold of). Thirdly, I'm building this car for my dad as a fun daily driver/to-and-from-work car, so the entire project is tailored to his tastes. And fourth, performance. This car has been a faithful servant to my family for 14 years now, and while not being much more than a mediocre car at best, it does have some sentimental value. I believe it deserves to have a little grunt for being a dependable car for almost a decade and a half. Oh yeah, and my dad's gonna be eating some of the cost of the project too, lol.



Heh, I kinda went into more detail than I thought I would. [/quote]

Hey, if the tranny fits!



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