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falcoln0014 08-03-2002 12:18 AM

Took my car to the local shop to get the carb replaced and he didn't find anything new wrong with the old carb. Instead he finds I don't have compression...none at all...from one rotor...he filled the housing with something that is supposed to be able to clean out carbon lock...supposed to set all weekend and then I'll know something monday. Hopefully that will fix it...if not then I may not be back on here for quite some time...if ever...I can't afford to rebuild the engine...or get a new engine...couldn't really afford a carb but my dad said he would help on it. I'll try to post monday if I find anything out.



Later



Falcoln

Suparslinc 08-03-2002 01:15 AM

no compression = bad news

SoRRoW 08-03-2002 06:19 AM

@ falcoln0014



What year ws your car again?Modle etc?

isamu 08-03-2002 10:35 AM

Sorry to here it Falcoln. More than likely you have a busted Apex seal, but maybe a spring is sticking or something. I will keep my fingers crossed for ya. Where are you located? One of us on this forum can probably help you work on your car or sell it, whichever you decide to do.

Viperx7 08-03-2002 11:40 AM

Damn man, I really hate to here that. Hopefully letting it soak over the week-end will help. Not holding my breath, but it can't hurt to hope.

falcoln0014 08-03-2002 02:23 PM

It's a 84 gsl with around 130,000 miles on it...if it comes down to a rebuild I don't think my dad will let me do it...he said he would rather buy me another car first...so I may have to put her on blocks up on the hill next to the other rx-7 parts car I have...a 85 gsl with a blow engine

Guess I just have to wait till monday to see what happens...later



Falcoln

Suparslinc 08-03-2002 04:51 PM

With a little bit of luck you might be able to find a good used engine. Doing the swap yourself is really not that bad with a Haynes manual and some mechanical experience.

RotorMotorDriver 08-04-2002 03:29 AM

Just FYI, Id like to point out that a broken apex seal wouldnt cause NO compression on one rotor. One broken apex seal would cause no compression on two chambers though. A blown side seal might be the culprit. Either way, a rebuild is in order.



~T.J.

treceb 08-05-2002 09:29 AM

unless its 3 broken apex seals.

ask me how i know?

Wooffinn 08-06-2002 06:00 AM

Hey Falcon,wooffinn here. Mate know the feeling. My '79 has just recently blown[destroyed,snapped etc etc] 2 apex seals as well.I took it apart, but not a lot was saveable. We get those Jap 6 port engines over here fairly cheaply but my bigger problem is the missus wants a new car[Mazda of course - I suggested an RX-8 but got a rude look!! :P ]. A BIG delema; buy new rotary engine or sell wife?? :unsure:

falcoln0014 08-10-2002 02:04 AM

Sorry to hear about your '79 Wooffinn...seems we have had a rather bad wave of luck here...found out the really really bad news today...4 different mechanics all did compression tests on my engine and here is what they all found out...



First of all one of my apex seals is totally destroyed...and the other 2 are either gone or in very bad shape...secondly the seals around the chamber...I am under the impression there are 2...anyway...one of them is totally destroyed...and the other is in bad shape too...first rotor however is in tip top shape...too bad really...



Mechanics quoted me 2000 to 2500 for a new engine installed...another 600 something for the weber carb system since my stock carb is due for the scrap heap...gonna be tight...but its better than buying some piece of crap car I don't want instead



I'll keep everybody updated on this whole thing if I can...supposed to get everything started in a few days with luck

Keaponlaffen 08-10-2002 03:28 AM

Good luck man, I know how it feels. I have a '79 GS that I toasted the engine in with a rag (don't ask), and I didn't think I could scrape up the dough for a new engine, so I was just going to part 'er out. Turns out the guy I bought the car off of knew someone with a spare outta an '83 lying in his yard with relatively low k's on it. Picked it up for $250 canuck bucks (I'm evil), and she runs like a top.



Y not try to put the engine in yourself? Not that hard if you have a little bit of mechanical know-how, and a few tools... I did it myself (I'm 16) and it took me about 2 weeks the first time. Now I've done it 3 times (tryed doing a cheap re-build on the blown engine, but it didn't work) and the 3rd time took me about 4 hours all together.



Hope it all works out, and that I gave you a bit of encouragement. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png





Jeff

falcoln0014 08-12-2002 04:14 PM

Well...got kinda good news...work should start on my car in the next week or so...I'm heading down to the shop tomorrow to hand over 1500 bucks for a engine (ouch). They told me they didn't know if it was going to be a rebuilt engine or a kinda new engine yet...not sure where they get the engines from...but 1500 bucks is a pretty good deal

supposed to be about 2000 to 2500 for everything once its done...and I got a carb yesterday...stock but it has "gross jets" and some other mods...has about 500 miles on it I think and it was completly rebuilt...picked it up for 50 bucks plus shipping so I guess I'm back in business unless something else goes totally wrong.

I'll keep anyone interested posted...later



Falcoln

isamu 08-13-2002 01:13 AM

Good luck, I hope everything goes well. 1500 should get you a freshly rebuilt 12A ready to rock. Are you going to drop it in yourself or have someone else do it? Keep us posted man.

falcoln0014 08-13-2002 11:30 PM

well...it cost a taaaad more than I thought...1500 was the down payment...turns out it costs 2200 for the engine...plus labor for them to install it...not sure who reworked it but its coming out of washington somewhere...with a 2 year waranty...I'm going to try to find out some more tomorrow when I call...

Turbo II 08-14-2002 12:42 AM

just but another car for that amount of money. you can get a good 1st gen or decent 2nd gen for that price

isamu 08-14-2002 12:42 AM

If its coming out of Wa. its probably an Atkinsrotary motor. I have been to their shop before and they are nice people. Your engine should run good. I believe they use all new housings on their rebuilds so you should have excellent compression. Good luck!

pengaru 08-14-2002 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by treceb' date='Aug 5 2002, 03:29 PM
unless its 3 broken apex seals.

ask me how i know?

actually, it would only take two. two broken or stuck.

falcoln0014 08-16-2002 05:55 PM

The shop couldn't find a motor so we ended up calling mazda recycling...they cut me a deal for 1300...they are probably building it as I'm typing this...supposed to have it compression tested and out of the shop by monday on the way to the mechanics...guess it pays to check around



Oh...and I got a cd in the mail today about the rx-8...*drool*...anyone know if it would be very easy to someday put a renesis into my car to bring it up to date on fuel economy and such?



and of course I'll probably have to get a rx-8 too...but u still gotta love the 7 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png


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