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sen2two 10-18-2010 04:09 PM

I bought this 85 GS yesterday for a GREAT deal. I was told the only thing wrong was a snapped throttle cable. Check it out, and when I get there, I noticed it already had a holley carb, RB manifold, and full true dual RB exhaust. SWEET... And some other choice upgrades I keep finding...The guy didn't have a battery so i never even tried to start it. I figure, at this price, I'm taking it no matter what...



So today I fix the throttle cable and change the plugs, then do a few other precautionary things to make sure I don't ruin it on the first start up. Including spraying a bit of carb cleaner into the carb before start up. I have no idea how long it's been since it's been cranked over... Turn the key, it starts right up runs for a few seconds then dies. Try to restart, no go. Spray some more carb cleaner, boom... cranks up just fine. I continue to spray a bit of carb cleaner before each time I start it or it will not start up. So I turn the idle screw so the carb is a bit more open for start up, it cranks up and holds idle clean at 2500 for a little while then starts to die out as I am turning the idle screw down. I do this a few times and every now and again, I try to throttle it (all of this done standing over the engine, not with the gas pedal) it I throttle it really soft, it will rev up smoothly. But i have to do it very slow. if I just try and throttle it, it just bogs and wants to die.



It never stayed running on it's on more than one minute. And it will only start if I spray some carb clean before hand.



I do not know if it's a 600cfm or another size, The guy didn't even know what the racing beat manifold was called... So any guesses, to large of a carb, or badly tuned and need to be rebuilt? (by rebuilt, i mean the carb, not the motor)

1988RedT2 10-18-2010 05:54 PM

85 GS is a 12A, right? Isn't the Holley for that manifold like 390 cfm or something? Sounds like you might be on the right track. Other thing I'd want to check is fuel flow/pressure.

sen2two 10-18-2010 08:24 PM

It has a holley fuel pump and regulator also. I think it is flooding it badly...



The fuel pressure was close 7 psi. And I'm pretty sure a stock or street ported 12a with a holley will only need about 3.4 psi.





From what I have seen, a holley 465cfm carb is the best choice for a stock or street ported 12a.I'll see if i can trade this 600 for a 465 locally...

mazdaspeed7 10-18-2010 09:05 PM

I dont know how extensively, but I do know RB modifies the holly carbs to better work on a rotary. I dont know how good your results from a standard 465 holley will be.

bigboi12A 10-23-2010 05:25 PM

600 on a stock port is over kill. Ive seen people drill the high speed air bleeds and idel air bleeds. Their right next to the venturies,,, i think thats what thoes things are called their pressed in. Probably just on the primary side I dont know what size their supposed to be but im sure u can tell if they have been fucked with u need. a small holley 450-5 something.



Unrelated, topic Yo man r u a part of the central florida rotary club thing? Ive heard rummors about them doing a swapp meet and or car show?????? just wondering if u had some more info since they meet out your way

sen2two 10-24-2010 12:48 AM

Yeah, the swap meet was today. its was OK. Nobody really came looking to buy or trade. most people only came looking to sell stuff. Was a harsh market...

bad 83 12-24-2010 10:25 PM

I have ran a 600 Holley on a stockport that ran perfectly and got 22.5 mpg. It's all in the tuning. The Holley has to run at 6-8 psi fuel pressure. If you look on the front of the airhorn on the carb, you will find a set of numbers. These will tell you what model the carb is. If the numbers are 1850-***, this would indicate a 600 cfm Holley.


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