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Herr Wankel 04-05-2003 07:03 PM

I have a 1985 Mazda Rx-7 GS with a new engine, fresh engine oil, fresh rear axle oil and fresh transmission oil. However, the noises still persist after the fluid changes as they did before the fluid changes. The problem is this. When I am driving the car in 3rd or 4th gear, there is a loud rumbling noise that seems to come from the rear of the car if the RPMs are below 2000. I can also hear an occasional metallic clanking noise when starting off in 1st gear or when just cruising along. I drive this car 150 miles everyday and believe me, this noise is new to me. Does anyone have any thoughts? I have nearly 179,000 miles on the drivetrain.



Before this noise started, I did a few things to the car:



*tightened a loose bolt on the front-right gas tank strap.

*removed the entire watts link, replaced the bent link on the right, greased the bolts that go through the link's bushings as well as the stud that the link mounts to and reinstalled everything.



Anyone who can try to shine some light on the subject, please do! I've tried to locate the noise, but I'm unable to do so, as "re-creating" the noise requires me to drive the car.



I hope I didn't ruin it. I feel very sad. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

Smog Fighter 04-05-2003 08:00 PM

Does it make a kind of "Bed Spring" squeak when driving EXTREMELY slow?

Usually while going forward but not in reverse?

Herr Wankel 04-05-2003 08:13 PM

I don't know about a springy noise, but if I go real slow in 1st gear I can hear the driveshaft or gears whine, almost like an air noise - but I think that's normal. What would a springy noise mean?

1990gtus 04-05-2003 08:15 PM

check your universal joints on the drive shaft.

if you have limited slip, did you add the locker additive to the rear when you changed fluid?

Herr Wankel 04-05-2003 08:25 PM

This is a very old 1985 open differential, non-LSD. When I last checked the u-joints on the driveshaft, they were in OK shape - that was 17,000 miles ago. This rumbling just started three days ago with no prior notification, which is strange. Also, when I have the car up on jackstands and I try and turn the driveshaft by hand, there is noticable free play in either the transmission or differential, of which I am not sure of.

Smog Fighter 04-05-2003 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Herr Wankel' date='Apr 5 2003, 06:13 PM
I don't know about a springy noise, but if I go real slow in 1st gear I can hear the driveshaft or gears whine, almost like an air noise - but I think that's normal. What would a springy noise mean?

The "Bed Spring" noise is the sound of dry U-joints.

Since you "re-located" the rear end (IE replaced bent Watts link component), I

was thinking maybe the driveshaft didn't like the new angle.



I have an '85 GSL with rear disc and limited slip (non SE model), is yours a GS

or GSL?



Also, this may sound stupid, but change the tires from front to back to see if it

is tire noise.



One more thing to look at is the clearance between the exhaust pipe and the

rear axle, they might be coming into contact with each other.



Another is the trans mount.



Hope this helps.



Raul

Herr Wankel 04-06-2003 09:53 AM

Yes, this is a GS model. I will replace the driveshaft today and see if it helps. I don't think the transmission mount is bad, but I'll check. I will also check the exhaust clearance. Thank you for your help. I will let you know how it goes. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Herr Wankel 04-06-2003 06:24 PM

Replaced the driveshaft with a new one from Mazda and it helped greatly. Shifts smoother and less of that annoying clunking during shifts. The rumbling is still there to some extent, but it's much better. I checked the exhaust and it clears the rear axle. Also checked the trans mount and it's fine. Checked the front wheel bearings and they are good. Maybe the rear axle? I don't know https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.png

RX7CMS 04-06-2003 09:16 PM

I have a 84 GS and it had the same noise. mine turned out to be a crack in the diff by the mount for the spring. it was wide enough to stick a nickel in. so I swaped to a gsl rear and problem is gone

Herr Wankel 04-07-2003 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by RX7CMS' date='Apr 6 2003, 06:16 PM
I have a 84 GS and it had the same noise. mine turned out to be a crack in the diff by the mount for the spring. it was wide enough to stick a nickel in. so I swaped to a gsl rear and problem is gone

You know what? That might be the case because that's where I usually jack it up. Darn it! I'll have to check that out. Maybe it can be welded.

j9fd3s 04-07-2003 12:39 PM

how about the rear axle bearings? they will make a rumbly kinda loud road noisey noise. unusual for it to pop up out of the blue though



mike

Herr Wankel 04-07-2003 07:38 PM

It would definitely be unusual, as this did just pop out of the blue. Note that this noise is only heard between 1500 and 2000 rpms. Thanks.

j9fd3s 04-07-2003 07:48 PM

does it matter, if you are moving? or can you get the noise in neutral at 1500-2000rpms? i just changed my water pump for almost that same reason, it felt like something spinning was right on the frame, and there was about an inch of play at the water pump pulley. it would shake the whole car too



mike

Herr Wankel 04-08-2003 09:06 AM

I have to be moving at least 25mph in at least 3rd gear. I hope it's not the water pump, I just replaced the darn thing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png

j9fd3s 04-08-2003 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Herr Wankel' date='Apr 8 2003, 06:06 AM
I have to be moving at least 25mph in at least 3rd gear. I hope it's not the water pump, I just replaced the darn thing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png

well if it only does it moving its not the water pump. you are looking for something turning at the same speed as the wheels



mike

manntis 04-08-2003 12:39 PM

Just FYI, most machine shops can replace your FB U-joints on the original drive shaft for about a third of the cost of a new Mazda shaft.

Herr Wankel 04-09-2003 07:41 PM

I bought this new driveshaft for $59, not a bad deal by me.

j9fd3s 04-10-2003 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Herr Wankel' date='Apr 9 2003, 04:41 PM
I bought this new driveshaft for $59, not a bad deal by me.

thats a good price



mike


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