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Racer X 04-29-2003 08:21 PM

I pulled the front cover bolts and oil pan bolts but theres still a tight hold on it by the AC bracket studs.What esle holds it on?It says 6 bolts but those are pulled already and theres no dizzy on it.



Luis

j9fd3s 04-29-2003 11:22 PM

the 19mm front pulley bolt?



mike

Racer X 04-30-2003 12:28 PM

Thats been off for awhile now.Its attached at the dowel pin area right by where the dizzy sits.Stupid engine is starting to annoy me. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png I have the 6 bolts out the pulley off the oil pan bolts off and still stuck.Tried cranking it with a rubber mallet and nothing.Its held together to tight and don't want to crack the cover so I have to figure something else out.

j9fd3s 04-30-2003 01:12 PM

theres a hidden bolt! under the grease



mike

setzep 04-30-2003 09:14 PM

I'm going with Mike on this one

j9fd3s 04-30-2003 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Apr 30 2003, 06:14 PM
I'm going with Mike on this one

i see you've done this too https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



mike

rotary fury 04-30-2003 10:19 PM

theres 2 pins that holds it in place u may have to use a flathead screwdriver or a prybar to separate it from the engine .

Racer X 05-01-2003 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Apr 30 2003, 10:12 AM
theres a hidden bolt! under the grease



mike

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Racer X 05-01-2003 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by rotary fury' date='Apr 30 2003, 07:19 PM
theres 2 pins that holds it in place u may have to use a flathead screwdriver or a prybar to separate it from the engine .

I'll try prying it a bit more at the pin on that side.Seems to be the only stuck spot.Those 6 bolts are easy to remove so its got to be something small.

Racer X 05-01-2003 04:23 PM

ARG!Its at the dowel pin on the opposite the oil metering pump.What is holding it tight there?Nothing is mentioned in the manual of a 7th bolt holding it there. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

drifter 05-01-2003 09:25 PM

I hate hidden bolts! When I pulled my 12a, I had to seperate from the tranny and I missed a side plate near the exhaust. A 2 hour job ended up taking 2 days with all the ******* around. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Racer X 05-01-2003 11:34 PM

Hey Mike, you could tell me anything that might help here. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png I want the T2 in the car this weekend and it doesn't seem to be getting there this month at this rate

j9fd3s 05-02-2003 12:00 PM

haha, look again for hidden bolts they are sneaky and like to hide under the goo. usually you have to tap the back of the cover with a hammer (with the oil pan off) to pop the front cover off



mike

setzep 05-02-2003 06:02 PM

I just went out to the garage to take a look at a front cover.....yup, only 6 bolts holding it on. Use the tap method like Mike said. If you jam a screwdriver in there you will ding the cover and maybe cause a leak in the future. Or wait, you're tring to remove the T2 cover? You won't need that one anyways so jam away! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Jeff20B 05-03-2003 02:25 AM

I had one that was so stuck, it pulled the dowel pins out of the side plate. They were rusted to the front cover. Only 6 bolts.

Racer X 05-04-2003 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='May 2 2003, 03:02 PM
I just went out to the garage to take a look at a front cover.....yup, only 6 bolts holding it on. Use the tap method like Mike said. If you jam a screwdriver in there you will ding the cover and maybe cause a leak in the future. Or wait, you're tring to remove the T2 cover? You won't need that one anyways so jam away! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

It's my SE cover right now.I'll try hammering it good.I have all 6 bolts off it for the past 2 weeks.I'll try to take it off in a bit. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

RX7CMS 05-05-2003 09:36 AM

on the subject of front covers does any 1 know can you put a 12A cover on a s5 13B. so I can stick it in the 1st gen

j9fd3s 05-05-2003 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by RX7CMS' date='May 5 2003, 06:36 AM
on the subject of front covers does any 1 know can you put a 12A cover on a s5 13B. so I can stick it in the 1st gen

yup, the only different ones are the fd



mike

Racer X 05-05-2003 08:19 PM

It finally came off.Took a dowel pin out in the process but came out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

drifter 05-05-2003 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='May 6 2003, 09:19 AM
It finally came off.Took a dowel pin out in the process but came out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

sweet! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Cross that one off the list. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How hard will the dowel pin be to fix?

Smog Fighter 05-05-2003 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by drifter' date='May 5 2003, 06:16 PM
sweet! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Cross that one off the list. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How hard will the dowel pin be to fix?

just grab one from the other motor.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Raul

Jeff20B 05-06-2003 04:18 PM

I've got to figure out a way to extract the dowel pins from mine. Well, I visegrip has worked before...

Smog Fighter 05-06-2003 11:27 PM

I have a tool called a "Stud Remover" that softly grips the threaded studs and pressed

in pins and allows you to twist then out accordingly. It's pretty cool.



Raul

Racer X 05-07-2003 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by Smog Fighter' date='May 6 2003, 08:27 PM
I have a tool called a "Stud Remover" that softly grips the threaded studs and pressed

in pins and allows you to twist then out accordingly. It's pretty cool.



Raul

Sounds like a cool tool. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

drifter 05-07-2003 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Smog Fighter' date='May 7 2003, 12:27 PM
I have a tool called a "Stud Remover"

Gets rid of all the competition at party's too. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Racer X 05-07-2003 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by drifter' date='May 7 2003, 12:25 AM
Gets rid of all the competition at party's too. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif The stud remover is also known as a Bouncer.

Smog Fighter 05-09-2003 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='May 7 2003, 08:21 PM
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif The stud remover is also known as a Bouncer.

We call him a "**** Block Jock" .



All the bouncers around here are 300lb Gorillas with bad breath!

setzep 05-11-2003 11:20 AM

A side note, Make sure you make a oil drain hole in the front cover before you put it on the T2 engine! I made that mistake. I thought I would be able to use the rear drain on the block (TT13b's have a turbo drain on the rear plate and the front cover) but then I made my exh manifold and found out that it would be damn near impossible to use the rear https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif So last night I had to pull the front cover off with the engine in the car, not that much fun.

Racer X 05-11-2003 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='May 11 2003, 08:20 AM
A side note, Make sure you make a oil drain hole in the front cover before you put it on the T2 engine! I made that mistake. I thought I would be able to use the rear drain on the block (TT13b's have a turbo drain on the rear plate and the front cover) but then I made my exh manifold and found out that it would be damn near impossible to use the rear https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif So last night I had to pull the front cover off with the engine in the car, not that much fun.

Yeah,I'm not making that mistake.I'm pulling T2 cover off tommorow and bringing them both to a shope and see what they can fab up for a return line. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

setzep 05-14-2003 08:34 PM

I went the same route Directfreak went, drilled/tapped right under the OMP. There is a perfect indentation there for 1/2 NPT.

j9fd3s 05-14-2003 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='May 14 2003, 05:34 PM
I went the same route Directfreak went, drilled/tapped right under the OMP. There is a perfect indentation there for 1/2 NPT.

i think thats where the 12at goes



mike

Racer X 05-14-2003 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='May 14 2003, 05:34 PM
I went the same route Directfreak went, drilled/tapped right under the OMP. There is a perfect indentation there for 1/2 NPT.

I was going to go that route to but the auto parts guy says there might be a better way to make a hose than that for the cover.We will see soon enough if hes right. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

setzep 05-15-2003 10:21 PM

I don't see where else the oil could be returned to the engine becides the front cover.

Racer X 05-16-2003 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='May 15 2003, 07:21 PM
I don't see where else the oil could be returned to the engine becides the front cover.

He meant that a AN hose prolly isn't the best way to do it.I shall see what he has in mind. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

setzep 05-16-2003 09:57 PM

I just went down to the hardware store and got fittings and hose, thats how I'm going to do it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png I like spending $10 instead of $70.

j9fd3s 05-16-2003 10:17 PM

yeah and its low pressure, you dont need fittings



mike

Racer X 05-17-2003 01:01 AM

I still need to take the return line off my turbo...... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Racer X 05-17-2003 05:10 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png Now this swap is getting to me.I went to drill a hole a bit further up the shifter rod and the drill bit breaks.OK, then I goto to get the T2 front cover off to bring it to the auto parts place and went to get the pulley bolt off and loosen the flywheel nut instead. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png Damn the T2 motor.My old SE pulley bolt poped off after some motivation why the hell doesn't this one.ARG! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Jeff20B 06-22-2003 02:56 AM

A vicegrip worked fine. They came out with some twisting and WD40. I hit them with a wirewheel and now they're all shiny with a few deep grooves in them from the teeth of the vicegrip. A little file action and they won't bind or go out of round when I tap them back into the front plate.


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