Looking at getting another FB this summer providing a can find a good one for a good price and the need for something bigger is needed.I don't care if its a 2 or 3 year project as I will keep the NOS fed NA too drive in the summers and use this project as a weekend fun car.Any ideas are welcome.



Thanks

~Luis

A 3 rotor would be nice but clearences are tight.

http://www.hitman.hm/RX7-124.jpg

Thats a 13b 3rotor but you get the idea.It's huge for a FB :twisted:

13B-RE cosmo engine. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

13BT :yum:

20B-REW 3 rotor(pure overkill) With a custom manifold and carb.I would run it EFI with a turbo of course. :twisted: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/upl...1034848494.jpg

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/upl...1034848551.jpg

i would do a 13bt or a 13b-re myself



mike

The mounts I can use off a SE crossmember at least just like this one.But I do love that torque that the 20B puts out.Thats why I'm really thinking about it.I hope to have another project car by june to tear into and prep it.I want to do it right and be happy with it.That way I can have two force fed FB's.One NOS and one turbo. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

i think the 13b-re with an 89-91 turbo would be easiest



mike

I see a tie between a J-spec T2 engine and the Cosmo RE..........Both are nice but the RE internals can handle 500hp easier.Can a stock T2 with a fresh rebuild take 500 flywheel horsepower?I see the T2 drivetrains cheaper then alot of engine.But a RE is sweet overkill too.I plan on a Haltech and if I went 20B of course custom engine mounts.Theres going to be no rushing this project I want to do everything right the first time. :bigthumg:

Easy isn't everything to me.I know this welder who lives across the road who could build and weld the mounts for me if I went 20B.He has 20 years welding expereance.

20 BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Seq TT :smirk:

Thats what I want for my SA.

Not as hard to squeeze out that 500+hp...:twisted:

haha, the 20b would be cool https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png , mount it way back in the chassis and get the imsa flares....



mike

I think you know what I voted for https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

i like TII engines...

I would mount the T2 tranny and engine as one unit then fab the mounts and weld it to where it sits with the tranny bolted up.Easiest way.I don't really care about relocating the rad forward more.I know I need a huge IC and dual oil coolers.I wonder if the twins would clear the chassis? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

Can the OEM internals hold my hp goal tho?

Which was it?RE or REW?

Looks like a T2 engine can't take 500hp without some internal work so I'll be doing either a RE or 20B-REW swap.MMMmmmmm torque.

I think to get 500hp from a turbo II you would have to port and run some atkins two piece seals, or ceramic, but it could be done but if you can afford it and if its technically possible why not the 20B, just because of how rare it is let alone the power and fun of driving it

Thats what I'm leaning to right now.I could get the money for the engine,tranny,clutch,flywheel and counterwieght saved by christmas then I can get the guy across the road from me to weld in the custom mounts for it.He has 20 years welding experience so I trust him to weld the mounts for it.I would mount the drivetrain first then weld the mounts so I know it will fit right the first time.Then I can save up during next spring and summer and get the rest of the parts I need slowly together and bring it to life.The torque of the 20b alone would be nice.Let alone the 500hp at the flywheel mark I set for this project.I wonder if 20B twins would clear the bay????Need to start the engine on those or something till I get a t04R for it. :twisted:

heres a 20B SA too bad its a all motor setup. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

http://homepage3.nifty.com/ssafcd/st...g/P6300031.jpg

heres a 20B SA too bad its a all motor setup. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

http://homepage3.nifty.com/ssafcd/st...g/P6300031.jpg [/quote]

Yeah, Too bad. :yum:



Bullet-proof reliablity, Incredible Torque, well over 300 Instant horsepower, No Lag, No ECU, a nice simple carb system, and a light as hell FB body.



Yuck. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

What Directfreak said



J

a blown 454.. hahah Just Kidding, how bout a turbo 12a

or try supercharging the 13b..

a non turbo 20b would be really cool, keep in mind you do have to rebuild the 20b if you want any power out of it



mike

What are the side housings like for porting on a 20B? Is there the same amount of material as a 13BT?



J

I'm still thinking of a 20B with EFI and a T04R setup.with approx. 500 to the flywheel. :yum:

the runners are bigger, so i think its less work to port it



mike

my vote: 26b four rotor custom fab everything!!!!!



just you and a motor!!

and all the BS that goes along with it, of course.

Yeah, just layout the engine and drive-train and then weld up a chassis around it.



Actually, my friends and I had an idea to make a cart or small beach buggy out of my left over 12a. :smirk:

That sounds like fun. :bigok: I see a 3 way tie now. :squint:

Or take use of the lower compression and hit it with a 150 hp shot of NOS. :smirk: :twisted:

Now now, don't be stealing my ideas here.



J

I wasn't.I really want a T04R to make the power goal of 500 at the flywheel. :twisted: Hopefully I can scam my parents garage for this project.This time full kit for me. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Looking at about 16-18000 cdn for this one before paint and kit. :eek:

I'm thinking of not putting in a 20B seq TT now. =(

The constant badgering from friends to get a 13BT is finally starting to wear me down and the fact that I'm hearing that if my car is quicker than 10secs, it will be put off the road. Its not a drag car, so maybe a 20B is too much overkill.

I might go a 13B-RE with a big custom-made T04 turbo.

What do you reckon?

I reckon(that makes me sound like a redneck)That a RE is just as good and allows you to use many factory parts.You can bolt it to a T2 tranny and use the US spec SE parts to mount the engine on a SE crossmember.I just think a 20B would be different and unique up here.I can get a whole S5 driveline straight from a 89 T2 for $2000 cdn if I wanted it.Thats the entire thing too.Engine,tranny,ecu harness' and ignition with T2 coils.I just want a 3 rotor that bad that I told him no or it would be shipped up here already.