On the SA, I toasted the sub-frame on a MF rock at the last hill climb. Managed to find a new shell with a full cage but it is an FB. Pulled the motor and went to dump it in the new shell and the oil pan is hitting the front cross member. Checked through all the spare parts and the front mount appears to be the same as the engine that came with the car and the oil pan looks identical too. Is there something I'm missing here?

thats odd, the front mount, subframe and oil pans are all basically the same 78-85...



maybe the front bracket thing is bent?

The bracket's not bent. I checked 4 different brackets. Is the subframe the same on a GSL and a GSL/SE? It appears to be a GSL because it has disk brakes all the way around and the bolt pattern is 110 mm but it's possible the shell started life as an SE. I can't find the VIN to check either. The PO also gave me 2 titles (really didn't care because this is track only car).

the SE's subframe will have the engine mounts 20mm further forward on the subframe.... i think that must be it

Yeah, looks like it. Any way around it other than finding another crossmember? I think my SA crossmember might be toast from hitting that BMF rock. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

ive seen people put an adaptor plate in there, or maybe it works if you flip the front mount thing around?

If your referring to the bracket that bolts to the motor, no can do. It not symmetrical. It's definitely offset more to the driver's side. I was thinking of just drilling another set of holes 20mm back. there looks to be plenty of metal there.

oh yeah, do that, its the simplest way.

Done. Measured 20mm to the rear of the drivers side and drilled a 7/16" hole. Put the motor mount in place and lowered the motor onto the repositioned mount. Then we eyeballed the passenger side and drilled another 7/16" hole and put the second motor mount in. Dropped the 12A in place and hooked up the drive shaft. Everything seems to fit well and no clearance issues. Thanks for the help, j9fd3s.

no prob! and now you're ready for the 13B

No, that's a change in class. I'm already moving from CSP to ITA.

hmm, whats the benefit of ITA over CSP?

No benefit. It's just that the '85 shell was already gutted for IT. CSP requires the car to be street legal. I'm not about to put the interior back together.

oh yeah. a friend of mine runs CSP and he had to go FIND some good a pillar plastic trims to race the car. it just seems odd that to go racing you need to shampoo the carpet first

Yeah, hill climbs are different from other forms of racing. If it meets the GCR, you can pretty much race what ya brung. We have everything from historics to home-built entries to a Rahal Lola Indy car. Your not trading paint but your not knocking over cones either. It definitely gets the adrenalin flowing.

that is cool. we've gotten to the point where we wanna build a NICE car, and you cant wheel to wheel. auto-x is out, the entire season is the same length as ONE session road racing.

Here's a shot from 2007 at the Weatherly Hill Climb. This is where I destroyed the SA last year.



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that is cool!