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sgieldon 11-16-2002 09:28 AM

After removing the clutch and replacing it with the clutchmasters setup I noticed the the Pilot Brearing was in great shape in the origanal flywheel.

I have the Pilot Bearing & Seal for the new setup, is it worth the hassle to change it out.

Old bearing has no sign of wear and the seal is in good shape.

The output trans shaft has no sign of wear.

If it works don't mess with it????.

I know there are alot of Pro's and Con's on this issue!

So lets rock on this issue!

Thanks

Steve

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phinsup 11-16-2002 09:43 AM

I always change no matter what, just isn't worth it to me, but I have the tool and it takes all of 5 minutes to do. I am just one of those people that owuld rather replace everything while I have it apart rather then take it apart again in 3 months.

sgieldon 11-16-2002 11:07 PM

Soooo: ya gots one of the tools that makes it easy.

Here in Eugene,OR not so luckey to find one! Have to pay about $125 to get it.

Got a better Idea??? Let me know.

Steve

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Turbo II 11-16-2002 11:09 PM

my buddy who works on helicopters should have an idea. let me ask him

Racer X 11-17-2002 03:22 AM

You need a puller to take the pilot bearing off?Oh joy.I need to order another tool. :rant:

SoRRoW 11-17-2002 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by sgieldon' date='Nov 16 2002, 10:28 AM
After removing the clutch and replacing it with the clutchmasters setup I noticed the the Pilot Brearing was in great shape in the origanal flywheel.

I have the Pilot Bearing & Seal for the new setup, is it worth the hassle to change it out.

Old bearing has no sign of wear and the seal is in good shape.

The output trans shaft has no sign of wear.

If it works don't mess with it????.

I know there are alot of Pro's and Con's on this issue!

So lets rock on this issue!

Thanks

Steve

sgieldon@earthlink.net https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

It seams like you didnt get yoru flywheel resurfaced..



What stage did you get?



Im running clutchmasters..and didnt change the pilot bearing cause I didnt have the tool..BUT it doesnt take nothing but 10-15 min to drop the tranny.You should change it though since yoru already there..and your tranny seals

sgieldon 11-17-2002 10:11 AM

Good Morning or evening all:

I did not have to resurface the flywheel because it's in great condition.

But I did the light emery clean-up.

I called every parts store in Eugene,OR and no one had a puller in stock.

To buy one is about $125.

As per last post the Pilot Bearing is in great shape.

Is this delama going to stop my final pain in the ass that is keeping from putting

KickAss machine together????



80 Streetport (New Engine) Going into.

84 GSL Cherry Condition

Holley RB Modified

Hollley Blue Pump w/Reg

RB Complete Header & Exaust System

Clutchmasters Setup

All sitting in Garage and no where to go because of stupid Pilot Bearing Answer

Thanks

Steve

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isamu 11-17-2002 11:57 AM

I would replace it now just to be on the safe side. Maybe Pineapple Racing will rent one out to you.

Turbo II 11-17-2002 01:13 PM

u can always try and find a member in OR. who has one

Stripgear 11-17-2002 01:36 PM

I have removed the pilot bearing without the tool. You get a sharp awl or thin screwdriver and wedge between the bearing shell and the crank. If you pry the bearing inward it will collapse and you can pull it out. This is not as easy as it sounds. You must be careful not to scar the crank surface or this will cause your new bearing to fail. Also, once you start down this path you have to finish the job because your bearing will be ruined.

Turbo II 11-17-2002 04:35 PM

hammer and screw driver. ive done it that way also stripgear. **** it, im not using the old one anyhow

SoRRoW 11-17-2002 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by sgieldon' date='Nov 17 2002, 11:11 AM
Good Morning or evening all:

I did not have to resurface the flywheel because it's in great condition.

But I did the light emery clean-up.

I called every parts store in Eugene,OR and no one had a puller in stock.

To buy one is about $125.

As per last post the Pilot Bearing is in great shape.

Is this delama going to stop my final pain in the ass that is keeping from putting

KickAss machine together????



80 Streetport (New Engine) Going into.

84 GSL Cherry Condition

Holley RB Modified

Hollley Blue Pump w/Reg

RB Complete Header & Exaust System

Clutchmasters Setup

All sitting in Garage and no where to go because of stupid Pilot Bearing Answer

Thanks

Steve

sgieldon@earthlink.net https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

You did say new engine..now you confused me..

Racer X 11-18-2002 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Stripgear' date='Nov 17 2002, 11:36 AM
I have removed the pilot bearing without the tool. You get a sharp awl or thin screwdriver and wedge between the bearing shell and the crank. If you pry the bearing inward it will collapse and you can pull it out. This is not as easy as it sounds. You must be careful not to scar the crank surface or this will cause your new bearing to fail. Also, once you start down this path you have to finish the job because your bearing will be ruined.

What???You use a flatblade and stuff it between the input shaft and bearing and pull outwards or inwards???? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

Turbo II 11-18-2002 10:29 PM

u hammer it in and crack it a little, then pull out

Racer X 11-20-2002 01:38 AM

Cool.Then the replacement bearing just slides in then?

isamu 11-20-2002 01:46 AM

Use a deep socket as close to the size of the bearing as possible to tap it in. The socket will have to be just a hair smaller to fit in the E-shaft without getting stuck. Then tap in the seal the same way. The first one I put in, I did not tap in all the way and kind of fucked it up. Luckily Phinsup told me to use the socket method, and the next time things worked perfectly. :bigok:

sgieldon 11-20-2002 08:21 AM

Thanks all for the sugestions;

I'm kinda of glad I brought this topic up. It's good to see all the opinions out there.

F.Y.I. I tried the Hammer and Screwdriver trick on a 82 RX-7 about 5 yrs ago and srewed it up so bad I had to go to a machine shop to get a tool that you attach it to a Drill and hone it out.

Don't think I'll try that one again.

Gonna call around today and see if some Tranny Shop in town rents the F.in thing out.

Thanks again

sgieldon

RotorMotorDriver 11-25-2002 06:48 AM

If its any help now, I used a dremel and CAREFULLY cut through the side of the old one and then pulled it out...Then just used a socket to press the new one in.



~T.J.

sgieldon 11-25-2002 08:43 AM

Well I finally got the damm thing out!

Auto Zone Rents a Pilot Bearing Puller.

What I did was Grind Down The ends to fit and ended up buying the tool for $20.00 U.S.

First strike and it was history. Who-Aah!

The store was not to happy about selling me the tool. Had a rookie behind the counter and

he did not know how much to charge me. So I said, How about 20 bucks. The sucker went for

it!!!!!!!!

Thanks again ALL

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