Rotary Engine Building, Porting & Swaps All you could ever want to know about rebuilding and porting your rotary engine! Discussions also on Water, Alcohol, Etc. Injection

4 Rotor Build

Old 10-19-2011, 06:42 PM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
John Huijben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 34
Default

I started on the parts I need to mount the e-shaft eccentrically in the lathe today.

Hope to get those done and get some more progress done on the e-shaft next weekend.

Would be nice if I can get those bits heat treated soon.



Also started on some intake manifold designing. I got some idea's I wanted to check out, so I started modelling everything.

This isn't the entire intake system yet, I'll update this later.



John Huijben is offline  
Old 10-19-2011, 10:48 PM
  #12  
Member
 
shainiac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 60
Default

The exhaust inserts are great! It should be fun to see how the final transitions out of the port and into the header turns out, going from oval to round. Want to make me some of those exhaust inserts for Christmas
shainiac is offline  
Old 10-20-2011, 06:27 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
jwteknix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wayne NJ
Posts: 1,440
Default

Originally Posted by Tegheim
Both? John is one person

If you mean me, thats whats forum is for

So many more people can do it, and togheter we develope the best engine
i meant both you and john. it is very nice of you guys to show the design and technology, used to make this. its not like everyones doing this stuff... i for one have never seen most of this stuff thank you guys
jwteknix is offline  
Old 10-20-2011, 10:23 AM
  #14  
Member
Thread Starter
 
John Huijben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 34
Default

Originally Posted by shainiac
The exhaust inserts are great! It should be fun to see how the final transitions out of the port and into the header turns out, going from oval to round. Want to make me some of those exhaust inserts for Christmas


I'm sorry, I don't fabricate parts for others, I'm not a company or anything, just a hobbyist. Even if I made some inserts for you, making the inserts is a piece of cake, placing them in the housings isn't. The original channel is milled out, the shape of the new insert is milled out, so that it's a light pressfit, then the inserts were smeared with defcon and pressed in, then the stainless steel insert was very lightly tig welded to the housing liner, then everything was beveled, and after that was done I smoothed out the waterjacket using defcon. I'll see if I can post up a more detailed picture of the waterjackets. There is a lot more coolant flow area in the waterjacket than stock, this is also because of the length of the 4-rotor (I'm planning on a normal cooling system which enters and exits at the front of the engine), more area here means the water will cool down more slowly, I wouldn't do this on a regular 2-rotor.





Originally Posted by jwteknix
i meant both you and john. it is very nice of you guys to show the design and technology, used to make this. its not like everyones doing this stuff... i for one have never seen most of this stuff thank you guys


No problem, I've gotten a lot of usefull information and idea's from these forums, and I like reading about these sorts of builds, so least I can do is return the favour.
John Huijben is offline  
Old 10-20-2011, 08:10 PM
  #15  
Member
 
shainiac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 60
Default

Do you mind sharing your Solidworks files? I have a model that I dont think is quite accurate. I am trying to trace out different peripheral port timings relative to the housing/iron so I can just print out 17"x11"s and lay them between the iron and housing. If you are willing, please email them to adshain@indiana.edu

Thanks!
shainiac is offline  
Old 10-21-2011, 03:31 PM
  #16  
Member
Thread Starter
 
John Huijben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 34
Default

Well, I'm not going to hand out these cad files to everyone, because a lot of work and time went into them.

I can help you out with your port-timing though.

I've added a few solidworks files that can do what you want. It's not a complete engine in CAD, but it does what you want it to do. You set the eccentric shaft at the angle you want, and then you can either print it out on a 1:1 scale, or you can do like I did, measure the distance between the port and the flat bottom side of the housing, and use that dimension in the milling machine. You need the latest version of solidworks to open it, since that's the version I'm using.
John Huijben is offline  
Old 10-22-2011, 04:45 PM
  #17  
Member
Thread Starter
 
John Huijben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 34
Default

I made the jig's to position the eccentric shaft in the lathe today, which was a crappy job to do. The parts have to be really accurate, or else the stroke of the shaft or the 90° phasing will be off. I spend a lot of time making sure everything in order. After that was done I could start turning the eccentric bearing surfaces. I only had time left to do one, I'll machine some more tomorrow.





One eccentric shaft end goes here







Finally it's in







Came out allright











Short clip of the machining work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDCborFfCmU
John Huijben is offline  
Old 10-23-2011, 09:27 AM
  #18  
Member
Thread Starter
 
John Huijben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 34
Default





Did the rest. Next up is drilling some balancing holes, and then the shaft can go out for heat treatment.
John Huijben is offline  
Old 10-27-2011, 06:33 AM
  #19  
Junior Member
 
jeroentje.nl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2
Default

John.



GENIAAL !!!

Dit had ik niet moeten zien... want nu begint het te kriebelen.

2 rotor turbo is leuk maar 4 rotor is ultiem!



sorry guys for the language.
jeroentje.nl is offline  
Old 10-27-2011, 10:32 AM
  #20  
Member
Thread Starter
 
John Huijben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 34
Default

Kom wel een keer langs als ie klaar is, ben een tijdje terug bij je langs geweest om ssr velgen op te halen.
John Huijben is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: 4 Rotor Build



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 PM.